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07-27-2014, 08:59 PM
EFF Commander-in-Chief Julius Malema said this while speaking to thousands gathered in front of the Israeli embassy in Pretoria on Friday.

“Today we are firing wearing shots. If he (Arthur Lenk) does not leave we will come here in our numbers to remove him physically,” said Malema.

Friday marked the 18th day of the deadliest violence in the area in five years.

French news agency AFP reported that more than 650 Palestinians and 31 Israelis had been killed so far.

Earlier this week President Jacob Zuma announced that he will be sending a special team to Isreal and Palestine to relay the country’s concerns over the increasing violence in the conflict but Malema said that was not enough. He accused the ANC of not being hard enough on Isreal. He said they condemn Israel’s action but at night have dinner with the ambassador.

Malema also said the BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa) members should suspend business relations with Israel.

“We are not fighting Jews, we are fighting Zionism” said Malema.


07-27-2014, 09:01 PM
Ek hoop hy voer sy dreigement uit. Die Israelis gaan dit verseker nie toelaat nie.

07-30-2014, 03:54 PM
Ek sal graag wil sien wat gebeur wanneer hy die daad by die woord sit.

07-30-2014, 04:15 PM
Ja, Mal-Emma se bek is groot want die geld wat hy so rojaal gebruik kom in alle waarskeinlikheid van Nathan Kirsh af. Was ou Natie nie ook die geld bron agter Rampele se mislukte poging nie? Bronne wil dit hę dat hy die geld agter die begin van AMCU ook is, en ons weet dat daar baie noue bande is tussen Mal-Emma en Joseph Matunjwa.

08-05-2014, 09:24 AM

The United Nations was right to speak out against an Israeli attack near a UN-run school in Gaza, UK Prime Minister David Cameron has said.

Palestinian officials said at least 10 people died in the attack on Sunday.

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon called the attack "a moral outrage and a criminal act".

Mr Cameron would not say if he agreed with those words. He thought it was "an appalling loss of life", adding that civilians must not be targeted.

He told BBC Breakfast there had to to be an "immediate humanitarian ceasefire", adding that the "fastest way to stop this conflict" would be if Hamas rocket attacks on Israel stopped.

The Foreign Office is investigating reports that a British national has been killed in Gaza.

'International law clear'

Meanwhile, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius called for a political solution to the crisis to be "imposed" by the international community.

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Robin Brant

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What is not said can sometimes be as important as what is said. The prime minister talked of "an appalling loss of life" in Gaza.

He said the UN was "right to speak out in the way it has" in condemning the most recent attack near a school as "criminal".

But he refused to say if he agreed with the description used by the secretary general Ban Ki-moon. He certainly did not repeat it.

David Cameron has been criticised by some in his own party for not speaking out against what they think has been the use of "disproportionate" force. If the UK government is criticising Israel in stronger terms, it is not doing it in public.

The foreign secretary has talked of "intolerable" suffering. The development secretary has described a "catastrophe".

But the party lines are drawn. Lib Dem Nick Clegg has said Israel's actions "appear disproportionate". Labour's Ed Miliband has described them as "unacceptable and unjustifiable".

He said: "How many more deaths will it take to stop what must be called the carnage in Gaza? The tradition of friendship between Israel and France is an old one and Israel's right to security is total, but this right does not justify the killing of children and the slaughter of civilians."

Mr Cameron's comments follow a row between Ed Miliband and Downing Street after the Labour leader said the prime minister was "wrong" not to oppose Israel's attacks.

No 10 said it was shocked Mr Miliband would "play politics with such a serious issue".

Health officials in Gaza say 1,800 Palestinians, most of them civilians, have been killed and more than 9,000 injured since the conflict began nearly four weeks ago.

Sixty-six Israelis have died, all but two of them soldiers. A Thai national working in Israel was also killed.

Speaking about the recent attack, Mr Cameron said the UK government had been "very clear that there needs to be an immediate, comprehensive, humanitarian ceasefire and that we want this conflict to stop - and we obviously think that it's an appalling the loss of life".

Asked about Mr Ban's comments that the strike was a "moral outrage", the prime minister said: "I think the UN is right to speak out in the way that it has because international law is very clear that there mustn't be the targeting of civilians or the targeting of schools, if that's what's happened."

Pressed on whether international law had been broken, Mr Cameron added: "I'm not an international lawyer... but international law is very, very clear that use of force always has to be proportionate and civilians should not be targeted."

For Labour, shadow foreign secretary Douglas Alexander said the killing of civilians and children in Gaza in recent days represented "both a moral failure and a strategic error".

He added: "Hamas displays no regard for human life and must cease firing rockets into Israel and digging tunnels to facilitate the murder of civilians.

"But sustainable security for Israel cannot be achieved simply by permanent blockade, aerial bombardment and periodic ground incursion."

08-05-2014, 06:33 PM

Cease-fire begins; Israel says ground forces withdrawn from Gaza

Aug. 4, 2014


August 3, 2014


The 72-hour cease-fire, which took effect at 8 a.m. Tuesday, was agreed to late Monday by both Israel and Hamas following talks in Cairo.--

Aug. 5, 2014| Palestinian men look at what used to be a tunnel leading from the Gaza Strip into Israel, in the Rafah area of the southern Gaza Strip. (Said Khatib/AFP/Getty Images)

( Blaai deur die foto's)

By Griff Witte and Sudarsan Raghavan August 5 at 11:55 AM 

JERUSALEM — Israel said Tuesday it has withdrawn all ground forces from the Gaza Strip as part of a 72-hour cease-fire intended to halt the nearly month-long war after multiple broken truces.

The Egyptian-brokered cease-fire, which took effect at 8 a.m. Tuesday, was agreed to late Monday by both Israel and the militant Palestinian Islamist group Hamas following talks in Cairo. It closely resembles previous proposals for an unconditional pause in a conflict that has devastated the crowded coastal enclave and left nearly 2,000 people dead — the overwhelming majority of them Palestinians.

Israel did not send representatives to the Cairo talks, but a spokesman for the Israel Defense Forces, Lt. Col. Peter Lerner, said Israel would abide by the truce’s terms and withdraw all ground forces from Gaza by 8 a.m. Lerner said Israel “would continue to maintain defensive positions from the air, from the coast and from the ground, but outside the Gaza Strip.”

Another IDF spokesman, Brig. Gen. Moti Almoz, later said no Israeli troops remained in the strip and that the next few days would be a test.

Ezzat al-Reshek, a Hamas representative at the Cairo talks, said that the group would abide by the cease-fire and that it is ready to begin indirect negotiations in the Egyptian capital about the terms for a lasting truce.

08-05-2014, 09:07 PM
In die eindtyd sal die hele wereld teen israel draai maar israel sal hom nie laat platvee deur swakelinge nie die tempel moet herbou word maar die grootste mosque staan in die wereld is tans daar gebou dit beteken dat dit afgebreuk moet word en die temple daar herbou moet word

08-06-2014, 05:06 AM
Israel has the "Sampson Option".
With the whole world turning against her, one can only hope and pray Israel never decides to exercise that option.

08-06-2014, 10:14 AM
What is the "sampson option"?

08-06-2014, 10:34 AM
What is the "sampson option"?

Actually the Samson Option - like the biblical figure who took his own life in a final showdown. The ultimate decision by Israel to use maximum force - In other words Nuclear power. All it will take is a couple of crazy guys concluding that they cannot win and "Boom" However, although the possibility exists the probability of it happening is rather diminished. But, having said that there is quite a lot of "fear porn" around linking the so called blood moon phenomenon to the other misconstrued biblical prophecies. People tend to manipulate ancient writings to suit their agendas and one must be mindful of who writes what and what may the ultimate agenda of the "preacher" be.

08-06-2014, 10:38 AM
Die bybelse weergawe van 'n selfmoordbomaanval.

08-06-2014, 11:37 AM
Dankie 524. Met die hulp van Google het ek nou weer n nuwe woord geleer. Ek weet nog nie hoe om dit uit te spreek nie, maar dit is kwaai. Ek het vir 22 jaar nooit nodig gehad om Engels te praat nie en toe ek in 1999 seminare in Engels moes aanbied, het ek met n skok uitgevind dat ek die taal verloor het.

Ek was so tweetalig dat ek na n gesprek nie geweet het watter taal tydens die gesprek gebruik was nie. Vandag praat ek weer. Baie stadiger en soms raak my woordeskat op, maar om in Engels te skryf sal ek nie weer die selfvertroue hę nie. EK dink dat ek en 478 in dieselfde bootjie is. Wanneer ons bymekaar is praat ons Engels en Afrikaans deurmekaar. Maar wanneer ons vir mekaar skryf, skryf 478 in Engels en ek in Afrikaans.

Terug na jou opmerking. Die outeur van die kommentaar is doodreg en dit is dat mense maklik profesieë vir hulle eie politieke agendas kan aanpas. Ons het gesien hoe die Siener gesigte, na Mandela se dood platgeval het, omdat mense dit vir politieke agendas aangepas het. Siener Snyman is nou iets van die verlede en hy is nou weer Adriaan Snyman, nadat hy erken het dat hy verkeerd was.

Wat die bloed mane betref, is die storie baie interessant omdat die vorige bloed mane wat glo op Joods vakansiedae geval het, volgens die skrywers en sogenaamde geskiedkundiges, groot omwentelinge in die węreld ingelei het.

Dit is goed om die goed te hoor, maar wat om daarmee te maak is iets anders. In die verlede het ons die stories van Nibiru die blou planeet gehoor, wat een keer in 6000 jaar hier verbykom en wat groot veranderings in die węreld te weeg sal bring.

Gister was n dag van aardbewings in Suid-Afrika. Gister was ek in n gebou noord van Pretoria toe die geboue seker vir n minuut of twee begin rammel. Later lees ek dat die aardbewings van Bloemfontein tot by Klerksdorp en ook in Johannesburg redelik besig was. Of dit nou die voorloper van Nibiro se uitwerking op die aarde is, sal ons eers moet wag, tot iemand kan bevestig dat die planeet wel bestaan.

Net so met die bloed mane. Ons sal maar eers moet wag om te sien of dit werklik vier in n ry sal wees en of dit werklik op die Joodse vakansiedae sal val. Wanneer dit wel so gebeur en die dinge volg daarna. Dan sal ons eers regtig weet of die profete waar is.

Daar is baie waarsęers en baie van hulle gee hulleself as profete uit. Maar die woord sę dat ons hulle aan die uitslag van hulle profesie sal kan meet, om te sien of hulle waar of vals is. Met ander woorde ons sal eers moet wag om te sien of dit wel gaan gebeur, voor ons die boodskappe sal kan glo.

08-07-2014, 01:38 AM
Putting prophecy aside here for a moment and look at the history of this conflict and the ideologies both parties have expressed over the last century.
Jinne my maasta, hier kom groot………..

Islams no compromise stance ie one specific Hadith and their declaration of Jihad against non - Muslims.
The Hadith is quoted as :
‘Judgement day will not come before the Muslim fight the Jews, and the Jews will hide behind the rocks and the trees, but the rocks and the trees will say: Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him – except for the qharqad tree..’
We all have heard their Jihad chants over the decades.

Israeli no compromise stance ie the Sampson Option.
!960’s Talk of Samson Option, but idea could go back further.
1973 – Yom Kippur war, Golda Meir authorised a Nuclear Alert. (Issrael accused of using Samson Option blackmail).
Leaders who have acknowledged Nuclear Capability –
1974 - Ephrahim Katzir
1981 - Moshe Dagan
1998 - Shimon Peres
2006 - Ehud Olmert
The whole shenanigans seems to stem from the Belfour Declaration, which is (explanation taken from a History learning site):
The Balfour Declaration was made in November 1917. The Balfour Declaration led the Jewish community in Britain and America into believing that Great Britain would support the creation of a Jewish state in the Middle East.
On November 2nd 1917, Arthur James Balfour, the British Foreign Secretary of the time, wrote to Lord Rothschild. The Rothschild’s were considered by many Jews to be one the most influential of all Jewish families – they were certainly one of the wealthiest. Their influence in America was considered to be very important to the British government.
Balfour declared his support for the establishment of a Jewish homeland in the area known as Palestine – though there had to be safeguards for the "rights of non-Jewish communities in Palestine". This communication was accepted by the Jewish community as Great Britain’s support for a Jewish homeland. Other nations that fought for the Allies offered their support for the declaration.
However, from a Palestinian Arab point of view, the same area had been promised to them for siding with the Allies in World War One and fighting against the Turks who were fighting on the side of the Germans.
Therefore, when Britain was given Palestine to govern as a League of Nation's mandate at the end of the war, both the Jews and the Arabs believed that they had been betrayed as both believed that they had been promised the same piece of land.
“Boom’ could be an option sometime in the future for this conflict unfortunately. But it is not necessarily in our life times, which is the good news somewhat I guess. The conflict will however persist, which is the not so good news.
Anti-Semitism is rising across the globe and should an International call ever be made for a ‘one man, one vote’ in Israel, what will Israel’s response be? Sure, this is far fetched, but for now.
Just got to have faith, but scary never the less.


08-07-2014, 11:11 AM
Watse nuwe woord Lukas? Ek ken daardie gevoel. Afrikaans het net sulke mooi woorde wat nie anglisismes is nie. Afrikaans is 'n baie mooi taal en het ongelooflike idiome en vergelykings wat dit lekker maak om jouself goed te kan uidruk.


08-07-2014, 12:31 PM

09-22-2015, 09:20 PM
In die eindtyd sal die hele wereld teen israel draai maar israel sal hom nie laat platvee deur swakelinge nie die tempel moet herbou word maar die grootste mosque staan in die wereld is tans daar gebou dit beteken dat dit afgebreuk moet word en die temple daar herbou moet word

Waar lees ons in die Bybel van die Tempel wat herbou moet word?

09-22-2015, 11:07 PM
3rde Tempel
Daniel 9:27 (22-27)
Mat 24:15
2Tes 2:4
Open 11:1

Wegraping - Tribulation 7 years en Temple halfpad - Wederkoms

Dan 11:45

Zec 14:4

Ezec 40 tot 46

4de tempel Mellenial tempel - Jesus self

Zec 1:16

WANNEER julle dan die gruwel van die verwoesting, waarvan gespreek is deur die profeet Daniël, sien staan in die heiligdom

Word hier verwys na die tepel wat nog gebou moet word?

Newton weer dink dat die tempel nie weer fisies gebou gaan word nie, dat dit die uitverkore kerk is en dat Jesus die Ark in die Tempel sal wees. Ander se nee, dit is die 4de tempel en daar sal n 3rde fisiese een gebou word.

09-30-2015, 07:13 PM
Soos ek verstaan sal die tempel weer gebou word en ek het toe gaan uitvind of dit moontlik sal wees, en dit lyk of dit dalk kan gebeur.