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    World War 3 - ?

    Wanneer ?? Nogal sinvol om dit te verstaan...

    OVER 2 BILLION WILL DIE!

    By Irvin Baxter

    The question is not, “Is there going to be a World War III?” It is in your Bible. There is not a one tenth of one percent chance that it is not going to happen. Another world war is coming, and it will be the biggest world war ever. According to the Bible, one out of three people on the earth will die in this war of all wars! The prophecy is found in Revelation chapter nine, verse 15: “And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.”

    The “third part of men” would be over two billion people! Other translations read “one-third of the human race”, “one-third of all the people on earth”, “one-third of humanity”. They all say the same thing. A war is just ahead that will wipe out over two billion human beings!
    The War of All Wars

    Prior to the 20th Century, there had never been a war with one million fatalities. Then came World War I in 1914, with 8.2 million dead. They called it “The Great War.” With the founding of the League of Nations, we had hoped that this type of carnage would never happen again. Twenty years later, 52 million people died in World War II. As if something had come unhinged in the human soul, we cried out, “How can we ever stop this?” With the founding of the United Nations we had hoped that the solution to world peace was at hand. I have the dreadful assignment of telling you, it is not fixed. There is another war coming. There will neither be 8 million dead nor 52 million dead. This war that is coming will kill 2.2 billion, forty times World War II. It will be the worst war ever.

    I can’t tell you exactly when this is going to happen, but the Bible tells us where World War III will originate. The “Sixth Trumpet” prophecy is found in Revelation 9:14-15:
    Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
    These angels were bound in the Euphrates River, which flows through Turkey, Syria, and Iraq, and empties into the Persian Gulf. War has been raging up and down the Euphrates River since 2003 when the U.S. invaded Iraq. When they are loosed, these evil angels will carry out their assignment to kill one-third of mankind.

    Out of the chaos and destruction, a strong leader will rise to promise peace and security. The Antichrist will step onto the world scene at just the right moment. He will provide firm direction but he will also demand absolute obedience.
    Four Major Prophecies

    There are four prophetic developments occurring right now that demonstrate how close we are to the Euphrates River War, otherwise known as World War III.
    Peace Plan for the Middle East

    In Genesis 15:18, God entered into a covenant with Abraham, affirming that the Promised Land would be given to his descendants. The Antichrist, according to Daniel 9: 27 will confirm this covenant with many for seven years. A peace agreement which confirms the covenant will establish Israel’s right to exist in the Holy Land and will mark the beginning of the final seven years to Armageddon. U. S. Secretary of State John Kerry has set the goal of April 29, 2014 to reach just such a peace agreement between Palestinians and Israelis. “A viable two-state solution is the only way this conflict can end,” he said, “and there is not much time to achieve it, and there is no other alternative.”

    Halfway through the final seven years, the Antichrist will order the stopping of animal sacrifices on the Temple Mount, which will have been resumed by then. He will then stand in the temple claiming to be God.
    Construction of Israel’s Third Temple

    II Thessalonians 2:3-4 and Revelation 11:1-2 describe a temple standing on the Temple Mount three and one-half years before Armageddon. Israel has been subsidizing nonprofit organizations that advocate the building of the Third Temple atop Jerusalem’s holiest site. The Temple Institute is dedicated to the vision of the Temple’s rebuilding, and has already recreated several items to be used when services are resumed on the Temple Mount.
    Preparing for the Mark of the Beast

    Revelation 13:16-17 describes the control system which will be implemented during the reign of the Antichrist. During the Great Tribulation, every person on earth will be coerced into pledging allegiance to the Antichrist. Those who do so will be given a unique identification mark or number permitting them to participate in the world economy. Those who refuse will be denied the “privilege” of buying and selling.
    The REAL ID Act mandates that Americans produce federally approved identification upon demand. Although it has repeatedly postponed implementation penalties, the Department of Homeland Security has announced a gradual rollout for enforcing the law, beginning in April, 2014. The Affordable Care Act, often referred to as “Obamacare,” implements a national ID system disguised within a “data hub,” and a “unique patient identifier” to verify eligibility. Concurrently making its way through Congress, as part of an immigration reform bill, is “E-Verify,” a mandated universal biometric ID required for federal approval for employment.
    A War that Originates from the Euphrates River

    Middle East unrest continues to boil in Libya, Iraq, Egypt and Jordan. Syria is on the brink of expanding to a full-scale war that could involve the major world powers. Analysts believe Syria may soon become a flashpoint that would divide the region along a battle lines drawn between Shia and Sunni Muslims. Iran is one of America’s and Israel’s foremost enemies and the Islamic Republic has become one of the most serious threats to stability in the Middle East. As Iran is rapidly achieving nuclear capability, the region will become far more dangerous as the number of countries engaged in nuclear activities grows. The Deputy Commander of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard has threatened that Tehran is able to “destroy every spot” in Israel. Germany views Iran as a potential threat not just to Israel, but also to European countries.
    Entrance Ramp for the Antichrist

    “WWIII – Entrance Ramp for the Antichrist” details how this war is going to come out of the Euphrates River area, resulting in the killing of one-third of the human race. It is going to happen and it will affect us, our families, our nation, our world, everything. And it looks like it is coming sooner, rather than later.

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    Ironically, Irvin Baxter began his search for truth in prophecy when He heard a preacher say that the four beast of revelation were Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Knowing that was not a true statement, Baxter set off to find truth. It is a shame that he stopped looking.

    Irvin Baxter is affiliated with the United Pentecostal Church, a group that denies the doctrine of the Trinity and believes its methods are the only true way to salvation.

    David Reagan of Lamb and lion Ministries did a wonderful job of detailing some of Baxter's twisted views of prophecy. Here is what Mr. Reagan wrote after visiting Baxter's website: "It doesn't take long to discover that Mr. Baxter is a person with a very personal and unique interpretation of Bible prophecy, something we are warned against in the Scriptures (2 Peter 1:20)."

    Due to limited space, it is possible only to identify a few of Baxter's erroneous teachings and misguided fallacies:

    He denies that Revelation is written in chronological order. He does not, therefore, believe that the Seal Judgments will be followed by the Trumpet Judgments during the first three and one-half years of the Tribulation--as the plain sense meaning of Revelation indicates. He argues that several of both the Seal Judgments and the Trumpet Judgments have already taken place. However, the normal, plain sense interpretation of Revelation 6 is that it marks the beginning of the Tribulation with the Antichrist going forth on a white horse to conquer the world. A world war ensues, and one-fourth of the world's population dies from war (the red horse), famine (the black horse), pestilence and wild beasts.

    Mr. Baxter argues that the fulfillment of the Seal Judgments has nothing to do with the Tribulation. He asserts that the fulfillment of these judgments began in 325 AD when the Emperor Constantine presided over a Church Council that produced the Nicene Creed (a creed, interestingly enough, that laid the foundation for the doctrine of the Trinity). In short, he identifies the white horse of Revelation 6 as Roman Catholicism, the black horse as Capitalism, and the red horse as Communism. This all makes for very interesting reading, but it simply is not substantiated by the text, for it violates the plain sense meaning.

    Another example of Baxter's misinterpretation is found in his assertion that the world empires revealed to Daniel, in Daniel 2, include the Holy Roman Empire. He sees the succession as Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, the Roman Empire, and the Holy Roman Empire. That is not the succession portrayed in Daniel 2. The Roman Empire is followed by an empire of iron mixed with clay--representing the unstable, final world empire of the Antichrist. The proof that this is the last empire of history is found in the fact that this is the empire that is suddenly destroyed by a stone that represents the kingdom of Jesus Christ when He returns.

    There is no place in the scenario for the Holy Roman Empire, which was an empire in name only. Baxter tries to insert the Holy Roman Empire because he wants to argue that it is the one that will be revived in the end times, rather than the Roman Empire. And he tries to advance this argument so that he can sustain his contention that the "fatal wound that will be healed," referred to in Revelation 13:3, is a reference to the Berlin Wall being removed so that Germany (which was the heart of the Holy Roman Empire) could be reunited.

    Mr. Baxter does further damage to the book of Daniel when he contends that the symbols used in chapter seven refer to Great Britain, Russian, and Germany. Again, this runs contrary to the plain sense meaning of the passage. In Daniel seven, God gives Daniel a vision of the same succession of empires as he was given in chapter two. The difference is that in chapter two they are seen from the viewpoint of Man - as glorious political kingdoms - whereas, in chapter seven they are presented from the viewpoint of God - as ravenous wild beasts.

    One of the strangest statements on Mr. Baxter's website concerns the Rapture. In response to a question about the timing of the Rapture, he says, "Unfortunately, rapture timing debates between brothers in Christ often become divisive, and for this reason, Endtime has chosen to avoid the issue for now." This non-answer is truly astonishing! Here is a person with an opinion on everything in the prophetic scriptures, yet he chose to "avoid" one of the most important issues!

    Even more astonishing is the very next paragraph, where Mr. Baxter states that he believes that the Rapture and the Second Coming are "the same event." Well, if they are the same event, then the Rapture must take place at the end of the Tribulation--so much for "avoiding" the issue. To sustain this position, Mr. Baxter proceeds to try to explain away some passages that imply a pre-Tribulation Rapture. In doing so, he presents a most peculiar and bizarre interpretation of 2 Thessalonians 2. The passage states that the Antichrist cannot be revealed until that which restrains him is removed. Mr. Baxter contends that the restrainer is "time." Yes, time! It's just not the right time for the Antichrist to be revealed, he says, and when the time is right, the revelation will occur.

    Mr. Baxter' approach to prophetic interpretation makes it clear why the plain sense meaning rule is so important. That rule states: "If the plain sense makes sense, don't look for any other sense, or you will end up with nonsense." As with Mr. Baxter, you will end up with a very personal interpretation that no other prophecy teacher is willing to endorse. Exercise extreme caution with regard to Mr. Baxter and his unique interpretations. Remember 1 Peter 1:20 - "No prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation." Frank Stagg in his book, How to Understand the Bible, says, "God does not grant private disclosures that are withheld from other people."

    1 Corinthians 14:29 says that when a prophet speaks, his words are to be evaluated by others, for "the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets" (1 Corinthians 14:32). This essay has been written in the spirit of that admonition. It is good that Mr. Baxter is emphasizing the Lord's soon return, but at the same time use great caution regarding his very personal interpretations of Bible prophecy.

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    Hein

    Ek plaas die bostaande net vir 'n bietjie perspektief. Dalk is die ou reg, ek weet nie. Wat ek wel weet, is dit wat die man voorspel is presies wat satan vir die wereld begeer en verseker nie God se plan om die wereld met Sy heerlikheid te vul nie. Dit is ook nie 'n profesie wat ek al by enige kinders van God met wie ek 'n verhouding het gehoor het nie.
    Ons mag nie aanhou om vreemde mense so profesie vir soetkoek op te eet nie, kinders van God het direkte toegang tot die Vader en ons hoor by God self.

    Net soos voor die eerste en tweede wereld oorlog word God se kinders weer verlei en mislei om te glo dat hierdie die voorloop vir die wederkoms is en dat ons dit maar net moet glo en aanvaar. Dit is nie en ons hoef nie.

    Chris

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    Dit het my ook getref dat hy dit as WWIII sien. Dit kan ons nie sê nie, die Bybel praat nie van n derde wereld oorlog nie.

    Terloops, ek sien nou n nuwe argument onder die wegraap mense. Dit is dat die 'restrainer' die Kerk is. Sodra die 'Kerk' opgeraap word, is die 'restrainer removed'. Hulle argument is dat die restrainer die Heilige Gees is, dat die Heilige Gees in die mense van die kerk woon en dat as hulle verwyder is, is die Heilige Gees verwyder en daarom ook die restrainer.

    Ek is meer as ooit oortuig dat die wegraap teorie n set van Satan is om mense te verlei. Hy gaan die tweede koms namaak deur hierdie gebeurtenis. Ja, daar gaan so n gebeurtenis wees en dit gaan 'spectacular' wees. Mense gaan op groot skaal 'ontvoer' word en dit gaan bestempel word as die wegraping wat gebeur het. Die wat ontvoer is, gaan hulself in n plek bevind vanwaar hulle glad nie kan terug laat weet dit is n leun nie en is vir ewig velore, omdat hulle die leun geglo het. Die wat agterbly en ook so geglo het, is net so verlore, in die wete dat hulle nou gedoem is omdat hulle 'left behind' is. Ontneem van alle hoop en geloof, sal hulle nie 'oorleef' nie.

    Hierdie gebeurtenis gaan n bo-natuurlike voorkoms hê. Sonder om te veel uit te brei, begin mense nou verstaan dat daar nie 'aliens' is nie, maar wel demons (duiwels). Hierdie is geestelike wesens wat in ons drie dimensionele wereld kan manifisteer en dit ook reeds doen. Hulle word waargeneem en ervaar deur die mens, as Aliens. Daarom vermoed ek dat die 'ontvoerdes' nie in hierdie drie dimensionele wereld aangehou gaan word nie, of opeindig nie. Verskriklik moet dit wees wanneer hulle agterkom hulle was mislei.

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    Chris, dankie vir jou inligting. Wat ek graag sal wil weet, is wie het dit wat jy hier geplaas het geskryf? Wat is sy naam en vanwaar is hy, kerk of denominasie? Net sodat ons na inligting kan kyk met skrywers se name daaraan gekoppel, en waar dit ontspring.

    Eindtyd goed is interessante onderwerpe en daar is baie sienings daarbuite. Dit is net een van hulle wat ek hier geplaas het. Ten minste kan ek sê dat Irwin Baxter nie in vooraf wegraap teologie glo nie, so hy kry een regmerkie by my.
    Almal praat deesdae oor oorlog en struwelinge tussen rusland en amerika. Hier is darem beter aanduidings van waar dit sou ontspring. Maar elkeen moet maar vat wat hy wil uit dit wat hy geplaas het, dis maar wat ek doen.

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    Hierdie het ek nou net getrek van Irwin Baxter se website. Hier sien ek dat hy aandui dat Christus Here is. So dis mos hoe mens die geeste toets...

    Kyk maar self Chris of jy iets hier fout sien.

    How does a person become a Christian?

    There are some popular misconceptions, such as a Christian is a person who has joined a church, adopted a creed, or believes in God. The problem is, churches and creeds can be false, and even the demons believe in God (James 2:19). But none of these address the sin problem.
    Abundant Life

    God wants to give us an abundant life, overflowing with joy and peace, through a relationship with Him. (John 10:10). This gift is so priceless that there is no way we could ever be good enough to deserve it. The Bible says that all sin and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). When anyone does something that God has not prescribed or is not of Him, that person has sinned. Sin causes a separation between us and God (Isaiah 59:2) and the result is wrath (Ephesians 2:3) and death (Romans 6:23).
    The Author of Our Salvation

    Jesus purchased our salvation when He went to the cross at Calvary. His death was the sacrifice that turns away the wrath of God (1 John 4:10). The good news, the gospel, is that Jesus died on the cross for sinners, was buried, and rose from the dead (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). The only way to be saved from wrath is to obey the gospel (2 Thessalonians 1:8). How do we obey the death, the burial, and the resurrection? If a person dies, is buried, and is raised again, that would be called being “born again.” So, Jesus authored the plan of salvation through His literal death, literal burial, and literal resurrection. However, now He says to us, “…unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:7) [NKJV].
    Repentance

    We don’t have to literally die, literally be buried, and literally rise again. He did that for us. We accept His death by dying to self, renouncing a self-serving life, and giving our life to Jesus Christ, saying, “I’m now giving my life to You. You’re my Savior, and You’re also my Lord.” Many want Jesus to be their Savior, but they don’t want Him to be their Lord. But we can’t get Him, unless we have both Lord and Savior, because that is what He is. Once we make the decision that from this day forward Jesus will be the Lord of our lives, we’ve taken the first step–repentance.
    Baptism

    Next, the Bible teaches that we are baptized into His name, and that’s when our sins are remitted. The Bible says, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins…” (Acts 2:38) [NKJV].

    This means that payment is being made for our sins. The Bible says that, “as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death…” (Romans 6:3) [NKJV]. When we go down in baptism by immersion, in the name of Jesus Christ, His death is applied to pay our sin bill. We all sinned. Therefore, we all deserved to die. But He didn’t want us to die, so He came, and didn’t sin, and died in our place. When we are baptized in Jesus’ name, we are united into His burial. So, we experience a spiritual death in repentance. Then we experience a spiritual burial in baptism.
    The Gift of the Holy Ghost

    Finally, God has promised that, as we obey the death and burial of Jesus Christ by repentance and baptism in Jesus’ name, we can partake of the resurrection of Jesus through the infilling of the Holy Ghost, evidenced by speaking with other tongues. We are able to worship in spirit and truth, set free to not only pray with the mind or understanding, but also with the spirit. This is what gives us the power to live a new life that is pleasing to God, set free from guilt and slavery to sin. No longer blind, weak and hopeless, we are “…fervent in spirit, serving the Lord; rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly in prayer.” (Romans 12:11-12) [NKJV]
    If you are not sure that you are a Christian, and want to be delivered from God’s righteous judgment, then put your trust in the One who died for the sins of the world (John 1:29). Turn from your sins, and obey the gospel through baptism in Jesus’ name and the infilling of the Holy Ghost. Remember, “You must be born again.”
    By Irvin Baxter

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    ...... en?????? Dis my punt Hein. Die man praat waarheid en twak met dieselfde tong. Jy kan nou al die moeite doen om deur dit te sif of jy kan net by God self hoor. Wat is die sekerste manier om die waarheid te leer ken?

    Luister jy maar na wie jy wil, ek glo wat die Bybel se en hier staan God woon in my en ek leef reeds in die wereld net soos Jesus deur God se liefde.

    1Jn 4:8 Wie nie liefhet nie, het geen kennis van God nie, want God is liefde.
    1Jn 4:9 Hiérin is God se liefde vir ons geopenbaar: sy enigste Seun het Hy na die wêreld toe gestuur sodat ons deur Hom die lewe kan hê.
    1Jn 4:10 Werklike liefde is dít: nie die liefde wat ons vir God het nie, maar die liefde wat Hy aan ons bewys het deur sy Seun te stuur as versoening vir ons sondes.
    1Jn 4:11 Geliefdes, as dit is hoe God sy liefde aan ons bewys het, behoort ons mekaar ook lief te hê.
    1Jn 4:12 Niemand het God nog ooit gesien nie, maar as ons mekaar liefhet, bly God in ons en het sy liefde in ons sy doel volkome bereik.
    1Jn 4:13 Hiéraan weet ons dat ons in Hom bly en Hy in ons: Hy het ons sy Gees gegee.
    1Jn 4:14 En ons het gesien en is getuie daarvan dat die Vader die Seun as Redder van die wêreld gestuur het.
    1Jn 4:15 Wie bely dat Jesus die Seun van God is – God bly in hom en hy in God.
    1Jn 4:16 En ons ken die liefde wat God vir ons het, en ons glo daarin. God is liefde; wie in die liefde bly, bly in God en God bly in hom.
    1Jn 4:17 Hiérin het die liefde sy doel volkome met ons bereik: ons het niks te vrees vir die oordeelsdag nie, want in hierdie wêreld lewe ons reeds deur die liefde net soos Jesus.
    1Jn 4:18 Waar liefde is, is daar geen vrees nie, maar volmaakte liefde verdryf vrees, want vrees verwag straf, en wie nog vrees, het nie volmaakte liefde nie.
    1Jn 4:19 Ons het lief omdat God ons eerste liefgehad het.
    1Jn 4:20 As iemand sê: “Ek het God lief,” en hy haat sy broer, is hy 'n leuenaar; want wie sy broer, wat hy kan sien, nie liefhet nie, kan onmoontlik vir God liefhê, wat hy nie kan sien nie.
    1Jn 4:21 En hierdie gebod het ons van Hom gekry: Wie vir God liefhet, moet ook sy broer liefhê.

    Chris

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    Hallo Chris,

    Ek wou nie in ñ stryery met jou betrokke raak nie, en stem 100% saam met jou God se Woord is al wat ons moet glo en bestudeer.
    Ek wou net uitlig iets wat vir my sin maak, WAAR die groot oorlog gaan uitbreek, of ons dit nou WW3 noem of nie.
    Dit gaan oor WAÀR?

    En toe haal jy ñ persoon aan, wat kritiek het op Irwin Baxter en sy eindtyd profesie :-) Ek gaan kyk toe wie die persoon is wat jy "quote" en gaan kyk na sy websites...., een daarvan raptureready.com ( David Reagan of Lamb and lion Ministries did a wonderful job of detailing some of Baxter's twisted views of prophecy. )
    Die Reagan man dryf ñ hele website wat uitwys daar gaan ñ vooraf wegraping wees :-)
    Jy weet reeds dat ek ñ boek gesktyf het oor die sogenaamde vooraf-wegraap-teorie wat NIE waar is nie, nie Bybels is nie.
    So jy haal iemand ( David Reagan) aan wat ktitiek op ñ ander een ( irwin baxter) het, wat ñ hele website dryf ( raptureready) wat volgens my nie Bybels is nie.
    So wat probeer ek sê. Dit wat mense interpreteer oor ñ onderwerp is nie altyd dieselfde nie. Hoekom weet ek nie, want almal "claim" hul word gelei deur Heilige Gees.
    Weereens, wil nie stry nie, net uitwys.
    Groetnis, Hein

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    Hein

    Dit is presies my punt. Ek weet nie eers wie die skrywer is wie se stuk ek geplaas het nie, ek weet nie of hy twak praat of sin nie, jy ook nie, maak ook nie saak nie, ek het die eerste negatiewe komentaar wat ek gegoogle het geplaas. Ons moet leer om by God te hoor. Ons moet ons geestesvermoe-ens toets deur die gewoonte. Ons kan nie meer afhanklik bly van profete wat afleidings maak van wat hulle in die media en kerke hoor nie.

    Meeste van die "profete", profeteer negatief en onbybels. Dit vat nie 'n profeet om te sien die wereld is in gemors nie, enige pampoen wat kan lees, weet dit en glo dit. So laat die media ons glo dat elende onafwendbaar is, dat dit God se wil is en dat ons maar moet berus. Daar is niks profeties aan nie, hulle gebruik bloot hulle kennis om die vernietiging van God se skepping te bewerkstellig, party onwetend. Die Bybel leer ons duidelik dat ons uit geloof lewe. Dit wat jy glo is hoe jy sal lewe. Dit is nou eenvoudig om te sien dat as die satan beheerde media jou kan kry om te glo dat daar 'n derde wereld oorlog moet wees, dan sal dit so wees. Wat ons nodig het is profete wat, profeteer die aarde sal vol van God se koninkryk word en hoe ons daarby gaan uitkom.

    Chris

  10. #10
    Hallo Chris. Stem so halfpad saam. As ñ profeet slegte nuus bring is dit nie te sê dat dit nie van God af kom nie. Ons leef vandag in ñ baie bose wereld.
    God stel nog altyd 2 kante van die "coin" aan ons, lewe en dood. Ek gaan nog eendag n studie doen aan hoeveel vermanings daar on God se Woord opgeteken is. Dis liefde ook. Waarskuwings is ook liefde.
    Ek dink ons is moeg dàarvan om heeltyd negatiewe boodskappe te kry. Openbaring kan wereldsgewys gesien word as negatief, maar ook positief, en vol hoop vir God se kinders.
    Die boodskap van hoop en geloof kom juis uit die werklikheid wat met hierdie wereld gaan gebeur in laaste 7 jaar. Ek dink dis so bietjie naief om te beweer dat profete slegs goeie nuis moet versprei. Hul versprei mos wat God aan hul gee.
    God sê- bedink die dinge wat daarbo is.
    Ja ons moet maar as dit so lekker op aarde gaan sal ons net dink aan dinge op aarde.
    My boodskap aan die wereld elke dag is ook van hoop, maar dit gaan oor kies. Lewe of dood.

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