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    Live Zimbabwe crisis: Army 'secures' Robert Mugabe amid political turmoil

    Soldiers seen on streets of Harare
    Explosions rock Zimbabwe capital in early hours of morning
    Military 'takes over state broadcaster'
    Army says Mugabe is 'safe and security is guaranteed'
    Moves come amid rift between Mugabe and military
    Zimbabwe's army denied it had carried out a coup after taking over the state broadcaster in the early hours of Wednesday, even as military vehicles took to the streets of the Zimbabwean capital and prolonged gunfire was heard near the presidential residence.

    Military officers read an address live on state TV, saying President Robert Mugabe was "safe" and his "security is guaranteed".

    "It is not a military takeover of government," an army spokesman said in a televised statement. "We wish to assure the nation that his excellency the president... and his family are safe and sound and their security is guaranteed.

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    "We are only targeting criminals around who him who are committing crimes that are causing social and economic suffering in the country in order to bring them to justice.

    "As soon as we have accomplished our mission we expect that the situation will return to normalcy."

    The address came hours after several loud explosions echoed across central Harare and troops seized the headquarters of the ZBC, Zimbabwe's state broadcaster.

    Speculation had been mounting throughout the day that a coup was under way against Mr Mugabe, after the head of the armed forces threatened to "step in" over the sacking of an influential vice president.


    Zimbabwe's ruling party accused General Constantine Chiwenga of treason over his comments, after the rare appearance of the military vehicles in Harare.

    Gunfire erupted near Mr Mugabe's private residence in Harare in the early hours of Wednesday, a witness told AFP.

    "From the direction of his house, we heard about 30 or 40 shots fired over three or four minutes soon after 2.00 am," a resident who lives close to Mugabe's mansion in the suburb of Borrowdale said.

    Armed soldiers were assaulting passers-by in the early morning hours in Harare, according to the Associated Press, while officers were seen loading ammunition near a group of four military vehicles.

    Aggressive soldiers told passing cars to keep moving through the darkness. "Don't try anything funny. Just go," one told a Reuters reporter on Harare Drive.

    Zimbabwe Army General Constantino Chiwenga Commander of the Zimbabwe Defence Forces addresses a media conference held at the Zimbabwean Army Headquarters on November 13, 2017 in Harare
    Zimbabwe Army General Constantino Chiwenga Commander of the Zimbabwe Defence Forces addresses a media conference held at the Zimbabwean Army Headquarters on November 13, 2017 in Harare CREDIT: AFP
    Two hours later, soldiers overran ZBC, a principal Mugabe mouthpiece, and ordered staff to leave. Several ZBC workers were manhandled, two members of staff and a human rights activist said.

    Shortly afterwards, three explosions rocked the centre of the southern African nation's capital, near the University of Zimbabwe campus, witnesses said.

    The US embassy in Zimbabwe warned its citizens in the country to "shelter in place" due to "ongoing political uncertainty".

    The UK embassy in Harare also urged British citizens to stay indoors during the 'uncertain situation'.

    UKinZimbabwe ✔@UKinZimbabwe
    Due to the uncertain situation in Harare, incl. reports of unusual military activity, we advise British nationals in the city to stay safely at home/indoors until the situation becomes clearer. Monitor this account for updates.
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    U.S. Embassy Harare ✔@usembassyharare
    Due to ongoing uncertainty in Zimbabwe, the U.S. Embassy in Harare will be minimally staffed and closed to the public on November 15. Embassy personnel will continue to monitor the situation closely. @StateDept
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    Tensions have been building in Zimbabwe since Emmerson Mnangagwa, a powerful figure in the ruling Zanu-PF party, fled to South Africa last week after he was fired and was then stripped of his lifetime membership of the party.

    The move was widely seen as part of a battle between Mr Mnangagwa and Grace Mugabe, the first lady, over the presidential succession when Mr Mugabe dies or steps down. The Zimbabwean president, who is 93, fights his last election next year.

    Many expected Mrs Mugabe to be appointed vice president in Mr Mnangagwa’s place at the Zanu PF special congress next month.

    Gen Chiwenga, an ally of Mr Mnangagwa, demanded on Monday that Mr Mugabe immediately cease “purging” the former vice president's allies in the party and in government.

    Armed Zimbabwean soldiers sit on top of a military tank in Harare, Zimbabwe in the early hours of Wednesday
    Armed Zimbabwean soldiers sit on top of a military tank in Harare, Zimbabwe in the early hours of Wednesday CREDIT: AP
    "We must remind those behind the current treacherous shenanigans that when it comes to matters of protecting our revolution, the military will not hesitate to step in," the head of the armed forces commander said.

    In a statement issued on Tuesday evening, Zanu-PF accused Gen Chiwenga of "treasonable conduct."

    Earlier on Tuesday Kudzai Chipanga, the leader of Zanu-PF's youth wing, accused Gen Chiwenga of stealing billions of rands and said his movement would act to protect the president.

    "We as Zanu-PF youth league are a lion which has awakened and found its voice, therefore we will not sit idly and fold our hands whilst cheap potshots and threats are made against Mugabe,” he said in a statement widely released on social media.

    Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe
    Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe CREDIT: AFP
    The governments of South Africa and Zambia on Tuesday warned military leaders in Harare not to take any “unconstitutional” steps to avenge Mr Mnangagwa.

    Senior military sources in Johannesburg and Pretoria said they warned Gen Chiwenga to avoid any "disruption to the constitution" after the military convoys were spotted on Tuesday afternoon.

    South African diplomatic sources said late Tuesday that Zambian president Edgar Lungu also warned General Chiwenga to ensure that Zimbabwe’s constitution was respected.

    President Robert Mugabe listens to his wife Grace Mugabe at a rally of his ruling ZANU-PF party in Harare
    President Robert Mugabe listens to his wife Grace Mugabe at a rally of his ruling ZANU-PF party in Harare CREDIT: REUTERS
    A source living close to Mr Mugabe’s mansion said: “We presume any coup plotters would know that Zimbabwe would run out of fuel in a week or so, and that South Africa would likely cut off electricity. Zimbabwe is a landlocked country and cannot survive if all borders were closed."

    A military intervention in Zimbabwean politics would be fraught with difficulties.

    The African Union and the regional 15-nation Southern African Development Community are both on record that they do not recognise any authority which comes to power via a coup d’etat.

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    5:34am
    Scenes in the capital
    Reuters says Zimbabwean soldiers and armoured vehicles have blocked roads to the main government offices, parliament and the courts in central Harare.

    Nearby, some Zimbabweans queued for cash outside banks while public taxis ferried commuters to work.

    A military tank is seen with armed soldiers on the road leading to President Robert Mugabe's office in Harare on Wednesday morning
    A military tank is seen with armed soldiers on the road leading to President Robert Mugabe's office in Harare on Wednesday morning CREDIT: AP
    Armed soldiers search a vehicle on the road leading to President Robert Mugabe's office in Harare
    Armed soldiers search a vehicle on the road leading to President Robert Mugabe's office in Harare CREDIT: AP
    4:55am
    Army statement in full
    The televised statement made by Zimbabwe Major General SB Moyo, Chief of Staff Logistics:

    "We wish to assure the nation that His Excellency the President of the Republic of Zimbabwe, and commander in chief of Zimbabwe Defence Forces, Comrade RG Mugabe, and his family are safe and sound and their security is guaranteed.

    "We are only targeting criminals around him who are committing crimes that are causing social and economic suffering in the country in order to bring them to justice.

    "As soon as we have accomplished our mission, we expect that the situation will return to normalcy. To the civil servants, as you are aware, there is a plan by the same people to influence the current purging that is taking place in the political sphere to the civil service. We are against that act of injustice and we intend to protect every one of you against that.

    "To the judiciary, the measures underway are intended to assure that as an independent arm of the state you are able to exercise your independent authority without fear of being obstructed."

    4:25am
    Finance minister 'arrested'
    Zimbabwe's military has detained Finance Minister Ignatius Chombo, a government source told Reuters.

    Chombo was a leading member of the so-called 'G40' faction of the ruling ZANU-PF party, led by Mugabe's wife Grace, that had been vying to succeed the 93-year-old president.

    4:04am
    Army's coup denial follows a trend
    Brian Klaas ✔@brianklaas
    Not clear if this is a full coup, but for what it’s worth: every coup plotter I’ve interviewed rationalizes their coup attempts as “not a military takeover” too. https://twitter.com/harunmaruf/statu...25816253419520
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    3:07am
    'A euphemism for house arrest'
    Reporters and analysts have been trying to read between the lines after the rather ambiguous statement from the army. Here is some of the reaction.

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    Maynard Manyowa @iAmKudaMaynard
    Zimbabwe's military has taken over and announced it is keeping Mugabe safe... http://fb.me/DT6iL8UF
    Thabisa Sibanda @SibandaSibbs
    Is that an euphemism for house arrest?
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    Naunihal Singh @naunihalpublic
    It now seems pretty clear. Is there anybody out there who thinks this is NOT a coup? https://twitter.com/naunihalpublic/s...95031064481792
    4:37 AM - Nov 15, 2017
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    Nqaba Matshazi @nqabamatshazi
    "Avoid unnecessary movement" = curfew, no?
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    2:39am
    Zimbabwe military officers say Mugabe is 'safe'
    In a state TV address, Zimbabwe military officers say Mugabe is safe and criminals around him are beng targeted.

    The Army encouraged people to remain calm, but avoid unnecessary movement





    2:21am
    Army 'targeting criminals around Mugabe'
    Christopher Farai @ChrisCharamba
    Statement happening on ZBC now. Says President Mugabe and his family are safe but army is targeting criminals around him. Says as soon as they are done situation will come to normalcy.
    4:09 AM - Nov 15, 2017
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    2:19am
    Soldiers read address on state broadcaster
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    Jeffrey Smith ✔@Smith_JeffreyT
    It's happened. Military has taken over #Zimbabwe airwaves, says they will target "criminals surrounding" #Mugabe to remedy "country's suffering."
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    1:59am
    British citizens urged to stay indoors
    The UK embassy in Harare has urged British citizens to stay indoors during the 'uncertain situation'.

    UKinZimbabwe ✔@UKinZimbabwe
    Due to the uncertain situation in Harare, incl. reports of unusual military activity, we advise British nationals in the city to stay safely at home/indoors until the situation becomes clearer. Monitor this account for updates.
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    1:56am
    'Shots heard near Mugabe's residence'
    A Harare resident has told AFP that gunfire erupted near President Robert Mugabe's private residence.

    "From the direction of his house, we heard about 30 or 40 shots fired over three or four minutes soon after 2:00 am," a resident who lives close to Mugabe's mansion in the suburb of Borrowdale told AFP.

    1:29am
    Tanks remain on the streets of Harare
    Armed Zimbabwean soldiers sit on top of a military tank in Harare in the early hours of Wednesday
    Armed Zimbabwean soldiers sit on top of a military tank in Harare in the early hours of Wednesday CREDIT: AP
    Yet the capital is still mostly calm.

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    niemand weet eintlik wat die regte rede is nie. tree hul namens robert op, of teen sy vrou (ook dus teen robert op).

    wat seker hier uitgewys kan word, is dat enige ander politieke party (oppossie( nie 'n kans het nie, want nou is dit 'n sagte ZANUPF "staatsgreep".

    So nou kan ons vra, was dit deeglik beplan, selfs deur robert?

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    Vannoggend volgens die media word die Mugabes aangehou in veilige bewaring onder huis arestasie.
    Ek het ook gelees dat die Zim weermag se hulle het dit gedoen om die huidige agteruitgang en korrupsie te stop.


    MUGABE TO NEGOTIATE EXIT DEAL?
    The SABC is reporting that Zimbabwe is likely to have a transitional government, which means sacked vice president Emmerson Mnangagwa could act as president for at least three months.

    Eyewitness News & Pelane Phakgadi | about 2 hours ago
    JOHANNESBURG - As South Africa's special envoys to Zimbabwe begin talks on the crisis in the neighbouring country on Thursday morning, there are reports that President Robert Mugabe has been given an opportunity to negotiate an exit deal, which includes state protection for him and his family.

    This has not been independently verified.

    The SABC is reporting that Zimbabwe is likely to have a transitional government, which means sacked vice president Emmerson Mnangagwa could act as president for at least three months.

    Defence Minister Nosiviwe Maphisa-Nqakula and her state security counterpart Bongani Bongo arrived in Harare on Wednesday night.

    They were deployed after the army announced a purge of what it calls criminals around President Mugabe.

    Mugabe is said to be safe at home, where the military is holding him and his family.

    International relations spokesperson Clayson Monyela says that all involved, including Mugabe, will be invited to the discussions aimed at ending the crisis.

    “I can confirm that the special envoys appointed by president Zuma have arrived in Zimbabwe, they were welcomed well. They have just been briefed at the VIP lounge.”

    Meanwhile, in the city, traffic appears to be flowing as normal on the roads in Harare on Thursday morning.

    Some private schools that had shut or only catered for a few pupils on Wednesday have now reopened.

    The head of the public service commission, Mariyawanda Nzuwah told Thursday’s Herald newspaper that civil servants should report for work as usual.

    The big question now is: will two envoys, sent by President Zuma to meet with Mugabe and the Zimbabwe Defence Forces, have access to the main players as this situation unfolds?

    GALLERY: On the ground in Zimbabwe


    Meanwhile, the head of the Zanu-PF youth league has apologised to the head of the army for criticising him in a statement earlier this week.

    Kudzai Chipanga was a close ally of First Lady Grace Mugabe and said earlier this week that he and other youths were willing to die for President Mugabe. This was a humiliation for Chipanga, who was arrested on Wednesday.

    He appeared on state television on Wednesday night to read out a statement in which he apologised to the head of the defence forces, Constantine Chiwenga.

    He said he had erred and was ill-advised and begged the commander to accept his apologies. He also claimed that he hadn’t been forced to make the apology.

    Chipanga on Tuesday criticised the army for threatening to step in.

    The state broadcaster has also changed its tune: it’s now giving positive coverage to war veteran leaders who have called for the removal of Mugabe as leader of Zanu-PF.

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    #Guest "niemand weet eintlik wat die regte rede is nie. "
    Meeste AKSKA lede weet reeds al van gister oggend af wat gebeur het en wat dit vir ons on S.A. gaan beteken.

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    old fool replaced by new fool

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    As oom jakob gaan, sal daar groter partytjie in SA gehou word as in Zim...

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    Voor ek my opinie lig, wil ek net sê dat ek nie ’n politieke ontleder is nie. My maatskappy en organisasie is ’n inligting gedrewe besigheid, en ek baseer my opinie, op die inligting wat ek in die veld leer, en dit is nie noodwendig korrek nie.

    En so kom ons nog n stap nader aan SADC. Daar wag nog groot veranderings vir ons en al ons buurlande. En dit het nou tyd geword om by ons plaaslike buurtwagte, GPFs en plaaswagte betrokke te raak en om radio’s aan te skaf waarmee ons met mekaar kan praat en operasies kan bedryf.

    Die nuwe president van Zimbabwe het ’n verpligting om wit boere op ’n 99 jaar huurpag sisteem in sy land te hervestig en dit sal waarskynlik gedurende die volgende vyf tot agt jaar binne Zimbabwe, veiliger wees as in Suid-Afrika.

    Vir Suid-Afrika beteken die nuwe President van Zimbabwe nie veel nie. Ek glo dat die Zimbabwiese kriminele netwerke binne Suid-Afrika nou meer gaan uitbrei en dit sal nie vir my snaaks wees as Zimbabwe, ’n veilige vesting vir die BLF sal word nie.

    Tydens die bosoorlog het ons vyandelike basisse binne die buurlande aangeval en vernietig. Met die nuwe SADC konsep wat gevestig word, glo ek nie dat dit weer sal gebeur nie. Dit sal my ook glad nie verbaas wanneer ek hoor dat Zimbabwe die BLF ondersteun nie.

    Deur die BLF te ondersteun, terwyl daar meer stabiliteit binne Zimbabwe, as in Suid-Afrika is, kan die nuwe president van Zimbabwe dalk twee doelwitte onder oë hê.

    1. Dryf die boere uit Suid-Afrika na stiller waters, waar hulle verwelkom word. En
    2. Wanneer Suid-Afrika onstabiel is, terwyl Zimbabwe totaal stabiel word, kan die nuwe president vir SADC oortuig dat hy ’n beter leier vir Suid-Afrika kan wees, as wat Suid-Afrika se eie leiers is.

    Met die stabiliteit binne Zimbabwe, beteken dit nie dat daar nie mense sal doodgaan nie. My vermoede is dat Zimbabwe ’n polisiestaat sal word en dat hulle hul eie bevolking met groot geweld, wat baie sterftes tot gevolg kan hê, met mag sal onderdruk om die landbou en die ekonomie binne Zimbabwe weer aan die gang te kry.

    Met die BLF en Zimbabwiese bedreiging wat binne die volgende drie jaar skerp gaan toeneem binne Suid-Afrika, kan ons ’n ernstige xenofobiese klimaat onder ons swart bevolking teenoor die Zimbabwiërs sien ontwikkel. Die Zimbabwiese aspirasies vir Suid-Afrika sal uiteindelik tot ’n geweldige xenofobiese regstelling binne Suid-Afrika lei, en dit sal gebeur voor die grenslyne van al die lande binne die SADC lande sal wegval.

    Hierdie Xenofobiese klimaat sal dan uiteindelik ook vir ’n sielkundige grenslyn tussen Suid-Afrika en sy buurlande sorg, en ons behoort dit tussen 2024 en 2028 te sien gebeur.

    Nou moet ons net sit en kyk hoe die verhaal verder gaan ontvou. Tyd is maar altyd die beste leermeester.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukas View Post
    2. Wanneer Suid-Afrika onstabiel is, terwyl Zimbabwe totaal stabiel word, kan die nuwe president vir SADC oortuig dat hy ’n beter leier vir Suid-Afrika kan wees, as wat Suid-Afrika se eie leiers is.
    Onwillekeurig dink ek aan Botswana. Hoe werk dit vir hom uit? Is daar n verskil?

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    Dankie Lukas.
    Ek wag nog die hele tyd vir die potensiële effek wat die Zim dinge op SA kan hê.
    Groetnis.

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